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Kitty,
I would suggest trying the program PAF Companion.  It offers more
reports that what PAF does, by itself.  

But, from what I understand that you want.  I would sugest just
printing a pedigree chart and printing the supporting family group
records.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Kitty Cortez"  wrote:
> Hi Jon
>  
> We are using PAF 5.2.  When we print we go to Reports and Charts, 
there we
> click on Ancestry and we don't get children listed.  If we click on
Books
> and use Ahnentafel (Ancestry) we also don't see children listed and
 there
> is no connection between generation.  It doesn't  mention who the
parents
> are, you have to go to the next generation up and guess who they
were.  This
> makes it hard since we have many lines with the same surname.  
> So we used Books, and clicked on Modified register Descendancy. 
This give
> us a report from our oldest ancestor to our most recent. and does
list all
> children and their connection.  But

http://www.jalpazacatecas.net/jalpa.html

I didn't know about this index until I went to the FHC. They have a 
link on their computers, so that saved me a lot of time.

Steve

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Lydia Corona  
wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In the January 2005 issue of Somos Primos, it is noted that a 
volunteer has indexed every Latin America film the Los Angeles LDS 
Family History Center has at it's location.That index can now be 
viewed on the internet.  Hopefully, this can help someone save a trip 
to Westwood. 
> 
> 
> The ftp: in the email is correct. 
ftp://66.159.208.204/latinfilms/home.html
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph Puentes  wrote:okay, so now the cat is out of 
the bag. In the Ranchos2 files [look under "members films"] area is a 
place where members can list their permanent films. I know that some 
of those films might not be exactly yours but if you could why not 
make a list of all the films you have "permanently" available via 
your family history center that have to do with Jalisco

Here's a link to an old map of Nuevo Reino de Granada:

http://bell.lib.umn.edu/historical/Laet.html


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Victor Villarreal"  
wrote:
> 
> Nuevo Reino de Granada was in South America.
> 
> If I remember correctly it would encompass what is now Colombia, 
etc.
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> > Hello Joseph:
> > 
> > Where is Nuevo Reino de Granada?  They are talking about New 
Spain, 
> right?
> >

Nuevo Reino de Granada was in South America.

If I remember correctly it would encompass what is now Colombia, etc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Hello Joseph:
> 
> Where is Nuevo Reino de Granada?  They are talking about New Spain, 
right?
> 

Hello:



Okay; if it is from Seville then it is the horses mouth!



This is what I have:

     #2350, Villarreal, J [Juan] de, hvv [hijo de vecinos] a Ind [Indias] 13 (I, 1462) [Al  [Alonso] Mtn [Martin], Leo [Leonor la Rica]



This is from "Indice Geobiografico de Cuarenta Mil Pobladores Españoles de America en el Siglo XVI, " Tomo I, 1493-1519, by Peter Boyd-Bowman.



Mickey

Hello Joseph:





Well, I was typing and typing some Puentes for you and hit the wrong button!!



I will list some names in the last book...Vol. VI  1578-1585



All de la Puentes; Alonso; Ana;, Catalina; Diego Lopez de la; Fabian;

Francisco; Juan; Juana; and Martin



For Juana:  it reads as follows:

4.956 Pedro Romero, natural de Ayamonte, hijo de Martin de Escobar y de Ines Lopez, con su mujer Juana de la Puente, natural de Madrid, hija de Juana de la Puente y de Maria Gonzalez, al Nuevo Reino de Granada, com criado del licenciado (Alonso Lopez de) Salazar, 20 marzo 1582.



Where is Nuevo Reino de Granada?  They are talking about New Spain, right?



I am in the 1600' on some lines but not in the earlier years., however, I am glad I bought the books.  They were purchased from the "Ministerio  de Cultura".  It would be interesting to find out if they are still available.  Vol VI was published in 1986.  At the time I purchased the books the office was on Gran Villa street....it has been a few

For example, the following is the data found for one of the 
passengers in the "Catálogo de Pasajeros a Indias":

Archivo  Archivo General de Indias   

Código de Referencia  ES.41091.AGI/16419//PASAJEROS,L.1,E.1462  

Título  JUAN DE VILLARREAL  

Alcance y Contenido  JUAN DE VILLARREAL, hijo de Alonso Martín y de 
Leonor la Rica, vecinos de San Martín de Valdeiglesias.  
 
Nivel de Descripción  Unidad Documental Simple  
 
Fecha(s)   [c] 1513-09-02  
 
Signatura(s)   PASAJEROS,L.1,E.1462  
 
Volumen    
 
Productor(es)      Información de Contexto  
 
Unidades Relacionadas 
 
Por Procedencia  CONTRATACION,5536,L.1,F.308 
 
Índice(s)  Martín, Alonso
Villarreal, Juan de
Rica, Leonor la
San Martín de Valdeiglesias (Madrid)
 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I haven't seen the site.  I will check it out.
> 
> Mickey

Hello:



How much did they cost.  I do not remember but they were cheap.  I brought back a set for myself and my friend.  I took an extra suitcase for books.

I will look up the Puentes for you.  And, yes it is early.  And yes, it would be harder to start from Adam!



Mickey

Hello:



I haven't seen the site.  I will check it out.



Mickey

Hello Mickey,

I was wondering if the information contained in your books is much different from what you can find in the "Catálogo de Pasajeros a Indias" on the Spanish site "Archivos Españoles en Red" (www.aer.es)?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Joseph:
> 
> I hope I am not biting off more than I can chew....but I have the following 
> books in my library.  Purchased long ago in Spain and other places.
> I will look up names for people unable to go to the library.  They are well 
> indexed so there shouldn't be big problems.  What do you think?
> 
> Indice Geobiografico de Cuarenta Mil Pobladores Españoles de American en el 
> Siglo XVI, Tomo l - 1493 - 1519
> Same as above, Tomo II   1520 - 1539
> 
> Catalogo de Pasajeros A Indias, Siglos XVI, XVII, y XVIII
>        Vol IV - 1560 1566
>        Vol V - 1567 - 1574
>        Vol V - Tomo II 1575 - 1577
>        Vol VI - 1578 - 1585
>        Vol VII - 1586 - 1599
> 
> I thought the Culteral in Madrid was

Kitty,

What type of ancestral file are you wanting to print?  I don't quite
understand, what you were asking.

Jonathan

Joseph:



I hope I am not biting off more than I can chew....but I have the following books in my library.  Purchased long ago in Spain and other places.

I will look up names for people unable to go to the library.  They are well indexed so there shouldn't be big problems.  What do you think?



Indice Geobiografico de Cuarenta Mil Pobladores Españoles de American en el Siglo XVI, Tomo l - 1493 - 1519

Same as above, Tomo II   1520 - 1539



Catalogo de Pasajeros A Indias, Siglos XVI, XVII, y XVIII

       Vol IV - 1560 1566

       Vol V - 1567 - 1574

       Vol V - Tomo II 1575 - 1577

       Vol VI - 1578 - 1585

       Vol VII - 1586 - 1599



I thought the Culteral in Madrid was going to publish Vol. VIII but I have never heard of any being published.



I also have :  Indice Geo. de mas de 56 Mil Pobladores de la American Hispanica, Tomo I, 1493 - 1519  by Peter Boyd Bowman (note this is not cuarenta but 56) .  This is a Xerox copy, the rest are the originals.



Mickey

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