TEST SITE - DO NOT USE - Development only

I've introduced my knowledge to the subject as far as I can. I defer
questions on DNA to those more in the know than I.



Contact Gary Felix on the previously given website. All I know is that
if you find someone you think you are related to with a different last
name then you will need to compare their male Y DNA with the male Y DNA
of a cousin of yours with the same last name (of course doing all you
can to rule out individuals that might have been adopted).  That way
you will see if both sides merge into a common ancestor somewhere back
in history even if its 20 geneations ago.



this DNA thing is complicated if you don't have the time to devote to
it. . .unfortunately that describes me.



joseph







Alicia Carrillo wrote:

I had never heard it said gato por oso meaning a cat disguised
as a bear. Rather I have always heard it and used as gato por liebre,
meaning a cat in the guise of a hare. Different animal, same meaning.

 

Alicia



Emilie Garcia wro

http://www.theblacklist.net/Afro-Mexicans.htm



latina1955@... wrote:

I tried getting into the
site, sometimes I can get in, sometimes I can't.  Anyway here, in
verbose, is what I was remembering - unfortunately, my memory was
inaccurate - the term coyote refers to meztizo and Indian.

Esperanza

 

there was a lot of confusion and variation, it seems, with this race
determination. Its understandable since it was such a subjective
undertaking.



look in the "files" area of Ranchos 2 and you will find another list of
racial definitions which have Coyote being a certain percentage of Black



but thanks much for giving us this information as it will point out in
the literature how "unsure" the various determining individuals were in
their classifications:



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/files/Racial%20Classification/



joseph



ps: ANYONE READY FOR THE DIGEST MODE???? let me know
if you want me to switch you!!!



latina1955@... wrote:

I tried getting into the
site, sometimes I can get in, sometimes I can't.  Anyway here, in
verbose, is what I was remembering - unfortunately, my memory was
inaccurate - the term coyote refers to meztizo and Indian.

Esperanza

 

RACIAL MIXTURE IN
COLONIAL NEW MEXICO

 

Like California and
Texas, the Spanish-speaking

Emilie Garcia wrote:

  So Joseph, you are not really descended from an African slave

I really couldn't say one way or the other. the MtDNA results are my
maternal  (mom's mom's mom's mom's) side and I have no documented
records past my grandmother. . .in fact I didn't know her name until
recently: Antonia Lopez from somewhere in Jalisco.



But on my paternal side going out to some GGGG grandparents some are
identified in baptism records as mestizo, coyote, mulatto, and negro.

, but maybe from someone with Moorish or Arab blood.  The Moors
were the powers in Spain only until shortly before the ancestors of the
current Spaniards had kicked them and the Jews and Arabs out.  A
Spanish friend from the Basque country told me she was proud not to be
"hija de moro ni de indio".  (She can't help it- the Basques are very
proud). 

 

I knew that my father's surname OLAGUE is Basque, because he
told me so.

http://www.ancestry.com/learn/facts/Fact.aspx?fid=10&yr=0&ln=Olague

Steve G. Apodaca wrote:

After all this conversation, I got really interested about submitting 
my DNA as well as my Tapia DNA through an uncle. Another member and 
possible primo (Angel Cervantes) encouraged me to do it in the past. 
Well, in the next couple months I will probably get several samples 
from different family lines. (As soon as I get the cash for it)

I just have a question, maybe I just need to read Gary Felix's website 
more carefully. Is there a table or something that explains what do 
all those numbers on the tables mean? Also, what is the difference 
between 12, 25 and 37 marker? What does it mean?

its embarrasing but I don't really understand it all



joseph



ps: have a look at me. . .down to my core.



click on the link that says Understanding your 37 marker results:

PRICING PROJECTS TESTIMONIALS

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helado” : Tarayata, palabra de origen aymara . Casi no puedo
conciliar el sueño, los recuerdos invaden mi mente. inundándome de
ternura infinita, ...

www.minedu.gob.pe/dinesst/
xtras/revista_kuskapurisun08.pdf - Similar pages



. . . don't ask me,



joseph





Emilie Garcia wrote:

Well, I guess I will never find out where my father got the word
"tarayata".  He was always laughing when he said it, sort of like
calling us "rascals" when we were rough-housing with him.  He was not
prone to name calling, and being from Mexico, he spoke proper Castilian
as his people had.  My mother, who spoke a strange old 17th century
Spanish dialect from New Mexico (according to my Spanish friend), one
that I no longer hear, was not laughing when she called me "tonta,
suata, surumata, tisica, fea, chirisca, prieta, trige~na" all in one
breath.  I must have been a handful, and I think I am the only
throw-back in the family to our