I believe I have connected the descendants of Geronimo Sanchez de Porras and Mariana Suarez de Ibarra to Francisco de Covarrubias y Leyva , Contador, son of Gaspar Covarrubias and Margarita de Quijada and Maria de Colio, grandaughter of Conquistador Diego Gomez de Colio and Catalina de la Torre.

There are many documents that must be gone through to get the whole story on the family. At this point I have gone through:
(Capellanias 1649-1851) Capellanias for Pedro Gomez de Colio and Nicolas de Ibarra, images 5 - 214
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DL9Z-9Y?mode=g&i=4&wc=3JWY…

Meritos: Diego de Herrera
Pares > Busqueda Avanzada > Buscar: "Meritos Diego de Herrera", Fecha desde 1600 hasta 1650 > Archivo General de Indias > Indiferente General > MERITOS: Diego de Herrera, fecha creacion 1645

I have partially gone through:
Informaciones: Francisco Covarrubias (Contador)
Pares > Busqueda Avanzada > "Informaciones Francisco Covarrubias" > Archivo General de Indias > Audiencia de Guadalajara > Informaciones: Francisco Covarrubias Pages 1 - 45/193

(Capellanias 1692) Capellania for Francisco Covarrubias
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6DSL-8C?mode=g&i=59&wc=3J4… Pages 62 - 109

I need to go through:
Capellania for Hernan Guerra de Colio (which seems pertinent)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-687R-C?i=196&wc=3JW1-HZQ%3…

For ease of discussion I'm going begin with Geronimo Sanchez de Porras (son of Geronimo Sanchez de Porras and Leonor de Hermosillo) who was married to Mariana Suarez de Ibarra (daughter of Alferez Mayor Francisco Suarez de Ibarra and Elena Illan de Vargas)

Here is what I believe to be the proper lineage (I say believe because I have never read so many conflicting testimonies in my 4 years of genealogy, the probably conflict because information is provided about people who lived 150 - 200 yrs before some witnesses):

For the Colio side:

Elena Illan de Vargas
daughter of Mariana de Covarrubias y Colio (spouse Melchor Vargas Machuca)
daughter of Maria de Colio (spouse Francisco Covarrubias y Leyva, contador)
daughter of Maria de Colio (spouse Juan Guerra)
daughter of Diego Garcia de Colio and Catalina de la Torre

For the Covarrubias side:

Elena Illan de Vargas
daughter of Mariana de Covarrubias y Colio (spouse Melchor Vargas Machuca)
daughter of Francisco Covarrubias y Leyva, contador (spouse Maria de Colio)
son of Gaspar de Covarrubias and Margarita Quijada

So heres how I put it all together

Capellanias 1649-1851 Img 12 teaches Pedro Gomez de Colio (Arcediano) is the son Diego Garcia de Colio and Catalina de la Torre, both from Spain

Capellanias 1649-1851 Imgs 70 - 72 teaches Nicolas de Ibarra is is the son of Alferez Mayor Francisco Suarez de Ibarra and Elena Vargas, daughter of Melchor Vargas and Juana de Colio, daughter of Diego de Colio, brother of Pedro Gomez de Colio (very different than the lineage above)

For the baptism of Mariana Suarez de Ibarra, Guadalajara 1666 (searchable in FS), Elena uses the surname Covarrubias

Capellanias 1649-1851, Imgs 12,39 appears Pedro Vargas Machuca son of Captain Melchor Vargas Machuca and Mariana de Colio y Covarrubias. Unfortunately the lineage to the Colio's for Mariana is not disclosed thus far in any documents. I believe Mariana is the Juana Colio referred to in Capellanias 1649-1851 Imgs 70 - 72 Nicolas de Ibarra's lineage.

Pedro Vargas is baptized in Guadalajara 1617 (searchable in FS) to Melchor Vargas and Mariana Covarrubias. I believe Pedro Vargas is Elena Illan de Vargas' sister. The latest Mariana would have been born then approx 1577-1601.

Throughout Capellanias 1649-1851 and Capellanias 1692 children of Francisco Covarrubias and Maria de Colio utilize the surname Colio y Covarrubias. Children discloses are Alfonsa, Diego married to Catalina Angulo y Figuroa, and Francisco, a priest. A baptism
for Alfonsa can be found in Guadalajara 1600, daughter of Francisco Covarrubias and Maria de Colio. This would place her mothers birth in a similar range (1560 - 1584) as Mariana de Colio y Covarrubias spouse of Melchor Vargas Machuca. Therefore Mariana de Colio y Covarrubias must be a daughter for Francisco Covarrubias and Maria de Colio.

Smooth sailing from here. In the Informaciones: Francisco Covarrubias (Contador) Pg 1, states Francisco is married to Maria de Colio, granddaughter of Diego Garcia de Colio, conquistador. Pgs 31 - 32 state Francisco is the son of Gaspar de Covarrubias and Margarita Quijada. Maria de Colio, his wife, is the daughter of Juan Guerra and Maria de Colio, this second Maria is daughter of Diego Garcia de Colio and Catalina de la Torre.

That essentially sums up how I concluded the lineage. Further proof Capellanias 1649-1851 Img 13 Pedro Gomez de Colio states Francisco de Covarrubias y Colio is related to him via his sister, Maria de Colio. So any tie with Covarrubias comes from Pedro's sister Maria, and not Diego, as the Nicolas de Ibarra lineage says.

Here is some additional proof that Elena Illan de Vargas probably did not descend from Diego Colio, brother of Pedro Gomez de Colio:

Capellanias 1692 Img 66 Diego de Herrera stated Maria de Colio is his grandmother, sister of Pedro Gomez de Colio.

In Meritos: Diego de Herrera, Diego's parents are Diego de Herrera and Catalina de Colio Alarcon. He is the great grandson of Diego Garcia de Colio.

Capellanias 1649-1851 Img 161 stated Diego de Colio el Mozo married Ines Ramirez de Alarcon, Diego is the son of Diego Garcia and Catalina de la Torre. Since Diego Herrera's mothers surname is Colio Alarcon, I believe Diego de Herrera actually descends from Diego de Colio, brother of Pedro Gomez de Colio and Maria de Colio. Any use of the surname Covarrubias must come from this Maria de Colio.

I have pages of notes from the aformentioned documents. There are loads of inconsistencies. It looks like the priests copied prior incorrect information and it propogated from about 100 years. Also contained in the documents is lots of information pertaining to this family. So far I have gathered that Diego Garcia de Colio and Catalina de la Torre had as children at least Maria de Colio (Juan Guerra), Catalina de la Torre, la Moza, Pedro Gomez de Colio (Arcediano) and Diego de Colio, el Mozo, (Ines Ramirez de Alarcon).

Some names in the documents include:

Isabel Tovar, primo hermano de Diego Covarrubias y Colio, son of Francisco Covarrubias and Maria Colio
Francisco, Diego, and Alfonza Covarrubias son of Francisco Covarrubias and Maria Colio
Francisco Guerra, sobrino Pedro Gomez de Colio
Bartolome Perez de Colio, mi sobrino, son of Rodrigo Gomez Parada and Bernardina de Colio, mi sobrina, relative to Pedro Gomez de Colio
mi sobrina, Agueda Guerra, y su hija, Isabel Tovar, relative to Pedro Gomez de Colio
Alonzo Sanchez Muniz son of the same and Francisca de la Torre, daughter of Diego Rodriguez Ponce and Leonor Ortiz de la Torre, daughter of Catalina de la Torre, sister of Pedro Gomez de Colio
Juan (Berrete Eraso?) son of Maria Guijaro and Martin Berrete? son of Ana Rodriguez Gutierrez daughter of Joseph Rodriguez Gutierrez and Petrona Rodriguez Ponce also daughter of Diego Rodriguez Ponce and Leonor Ortiz de la Torre
Francisco Covarrubias son of Diego Covarubbias and Catalina Angulo y Figueroa
and much more Covarubbias descendants on Capellanias 1649-1851 Imgs 105 - 114, 124 - 129, 134 - 143, 161 - 174, 178 - 212

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Antonia de Covarrubias Leyva, niece to Gaspar Covarrubias is an ancestor to:
"Santa Maria de las Maravillas de Jesus"

María de las Maravillas was born in Madrid, Spain, on 4 November 1891, the daughter of Luis Pidal y Mon, the Marquis of Pidal, and Cristina Chico de Guzmán y Muńoz. At the time her father was the Spanish Ambassador to the Holy See, and she grew up in a devout Catholic family.

María made a vow of chastity at the age of five and devoted herself to charitable work. After coming into contact with the writings of St John of the Cross and St Teresa of Jesus, she felt called to become a Discalced Carmelite. Her father, whom she had faithfully assisted when he became ill, died in 1913, and her mother was reluctant to accept her daughter's decision to enter the Carmelite monastery.

However, on 12 October 1919, María did enter the Discalced Carmelites of El Escorial in Madrid. She made her simple vows on 7 May 1921.

Before her final profession on 30 May 1924, Sr María had

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Here is the Covarrubias line

1). Juan Covarrubia

2) Hernando Covarrubia

3). Maria Covarrubia + Sebastian Martinez Leyva de Covarrubias

4) Alonso Leyva Covarrubia + Maria Gutierrez de Hegas

5) Gaspar Covarrubias Egas + Margarita Quijada

6) Francisco Covarrubias + Maria Bermudez (Aka Maria Colio)

Source: Mygenes2000 by R.A.Ricci

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Rick

Amazing stuff your posting.

I'd like to clarify Francisco Covarrubias was married twice, first to Maria Ramirez Bermudez (hl Martin Bermudo and Catalina Asuna), with whom he came to the new world with, and then Maria Colio (hl Juan Guerra and Maria Colio).

Alex

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I am assuming that I posted a mistake and that Francisco Covarrubias was married at least twice. I believe Maria Bermudez and Maria Colio are two different people. My research focused on his ancestors and not on him so I do not know much of his wives or children.

Sorry about the mistake,
R.A. Ricci

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I have obtained via ILL Fernández, R. (2003). La gran propiedad en Cocula de Ávalos 1539-1700. México, D.F: Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia.

Pg 280 states Francisco Covarrubias and Diego Covarrubias y Leyva were primos hermanos!

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Diego de Covarrubias y Leiva was born in Toledo in 1512 and died in Madrid in 1577.

Francisco Covarrubias y Quijada was born in 1543 and died between 13/Jun/1600 & 6/Sep/1600

Francisco Covarrubias y Quijada was born 31 years after Diego Covarrubias y Leiva

Even though the source you provided states that he was a first cousin, the "Diccionario Biografico del Occidente Novohispano" identifies Diego Covarubbias as his "tio".

I think your source was trying to get the point across that they were very closely related, and they are.

If they were first cousins then Gaspar Covarrubias Hegas would have to be Alonso's brother and this is extremely unlikely. Alonso's brothers are well documented as they had a big part in the lives of Marco Covarrubias descendants and Gaspar is not mentioned in these documents.

I have no problem changing the family line if he is a cousin, but the information points to Diego Covarrubias being his uncle.

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

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Dear Alex,

Yes, Alonso's brother, Antonio Covarrubias Leyva was married. I only know of one daughter that he was living with when he passed away.

Antonio Covarrubias Egas was born in 1524 and passed away on 23/Dec/1602. He was married int 1553 to Maria Tapia. Maria Tapia is a cousin to Saint Teresa de Jesus. St. Teresa D'avila informed Diego Covarrubias Leyva that his aunt, Maria Tapia, was her cousin. He quoted St Teresa's exact words in his writing.

Diego wrote when quoting St Teresa d' Avila:
(Me dijo estas palabras:...... "Sepa vuestra merced, señor prior, que díos le ha traído a esta casa, y que tiene obligación, de hacerme merced, aunque yo no me precío de las noblezas del mundo, no dejo de estimar lo que es de razón; y sepa que la Señora Doña Maria Tapia, su tía, es mi prima.....")

His daughter Maria Covarrubias married Hernando De Vega.

Hernando and Maria have a son "Don Fernando De Vega Covarrubia", Caballero de Santiago, Paje del Rey

There was another family member

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Dear Alex,

Sebastian Martinez Leyva and Maria Covarrubias had four sons that I know of. The eldest is Marco Covarrubias Leyva. Second is Pedro Covarrubias Leyva. Third is Alonso Covarrubias Leyva. The fourth son is Juan Covarrubias Leyva. I have already mentioned Marco's two marriages and Alonso's marriage. Juan was a priest.

I have no information on Pedro Covarrubias other than that he was the second son. He is not mentioned by his nephews. I believe that he may have died at a young age. I don't see any records of Pedro being married or having children.

Diego and Francisco are not first cousins unless Gaspar is Alonso Covarrubia's brother that was originally named Pedro Covarrubias. I find this highly improbable.

Gaspar Covarrubias is not a son of Marco or Juan. Gaspar Covarrubias is the son of Alonso Covarrubias and Maria Gutierrez Hegas. Francisco Covarubias is the son of Gaspar Covarrubias.

Alonso Covarrubias Leyva and Maria Gutierrez Hegas are the parents of Diego

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Rick

Thank you for the family outline you have. Much appreciated.

Here is the source I was talking about. Ill post it to the Edward III post too and there is Figueroa and Banuelos in that tree.

If you descend from Catalina Figueroa y Angulo Torres cc Diego Covarruvias y Leyva Colio then this is a good reference for you.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55292850/Fern%C3%A1ndez%2C%20R%20(2…

Alex

Comentario

Juan is not the father of Hernando. I will post Hernando Covarrubias ancestry later. The rest of the line is correct

1). --------Covarrubias

2) Hernando Covarrubias

3). Maria Covarrubias + Sebastian Martinez Leyva

4) Alonso Leyva Covarrubias + Maria Gutierrez de Hegas

5) Gaspar Covarrubias Egas + Margarita Quijada

6) Francisco Covarrubias Quijada

Source: Mygenes2000 by R.A.Ricci

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Dear Alex,
This book does confirm what I have for one of his ancestors. It is the other lines, Maria Covarrubias maternal lines where I found an ancestry that connects with a lot of my other research.

Thanks,
Rick

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I have a question for everyone, hoping you all can provide some insight.

Currently I have in my tree Francisco Suarez de Ibarra, the elder, having married twice: 1st Maria Martinez del Castillo and 2nd Isabel Pimentel.

The elder also had a son, Francisco Suarez de Ibarra, the younger, who married Elena Illan de Vargas.

I assumed the younger was the son of Isabel Pimentel because she is stated as the abuela of Francisco and Elena's daughter, Maria in her baptismal record:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DJ99-TC?mode=g&i=20&wc=3JW…

However, I may have a new development. In a baptismal record from 1609 for Juana, right side second one down, states she was a slave of Francisco Suarez de Ibarra fue su padrino Francisco Suarez de Ibarra (el nino?):

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-2LSX-3G?mode=g&i=48&wc=3J6…

Am I reading this right? Is saying el nino the

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To me it reads as:

... Y como tales hijosdalgo fueron asi dados y tenidos en la ciudad de granada y sevilla donde fueron vecinos y en la villa de cobarrubias donde el dicho gaspar de cobarrubias era natural y la dicha Margarita Quijada en la villa de madrid donde era natural y en esta posesion les vieron estar sin oir ni ver cosa al contrario y en los hechos que en la ciudad de sevilla suele haber nunca les vieron pecar ni contribuir a sus abuelas en la villa de covarrubias y madrid por ser como es hijosdalgo y en esta posesion a estado y esta el dicho contador francisco covarrubias sin que los testigo ayan oido cosa en contraria teniendolo por tal hijodalgo digan lo que saben...

I might be off on a word or two as some of the abbreviations are unknown to me.

Daniel Serna Valencia

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BTW, I noticed that you mention Catalina de Angulo. Her parents were Clemente de Torres and Geronima de Angulo y Figueroa.

In turn Geronima's parents were:

Pedro de Figueroa y Banuelos cc Beatriz de Angulo Montesinos

Pedro's parents were: Francisco de Figueroa and Ana Temino de Velasco y Banuelos

Beatriz's parents were: Alonso de Angulo Montesinos de ls Isla and Catalina de Lila Pereira

Alonso de Angulo's parents were: Alonso Martinez de Angulo and Juana Cervantes

Catalina's parents were: Juan Borallo Pereira and Beatriz Hernandez

These are families with deep roots in the antiguo Obispado de Michoacan. (Juan Borallo was a conquistador and one of the primeros pobladores of Michoacan)

The above information comes from the merits and limpieza de sangre of Pedro de Figueroa y Banuelos, priest, son of Pedro de Figueroa and Beatriz de Angulo Montesinos.

Daniel Serna Valencia

Comentario

The context is that the people mentioned were neighbors of Sevilla in addition to the other cities, places mentioned.

I need to locate the scans of the limpieza de sangre of Pedro de Figueroa y Banuelos. As soon as I find, I'll try to upload it to this site and will let you know.

Daniel

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Daniel,

Thank you so much! I appreciate it!

Some new side info: Some trees online have Francisco Covarrubias who married Isabel de Rodas related to Gaspar Covarrubias or his relatives in some manner. I have found info to the contrary. See this post:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18079

Alex

Comentario

Daniel,

I read the document. Its very good. How were you able ascertain who Geronima Angulo y Figuroa's (m. Clemente Torres) parents are? I'm missing that link.

Also where did you get this from? The Bancroft Library? I see that they probably have this document. I'm interested in the previous page as well

Thanks again
Alex

Comentario

Hi Alex,

The ancestry of Geronima de Angulo y Figueroa is included in the pages before the scans I gave you. Unfortunately, I can't locate those pages - I'll keep looking. Suffice to say that her parents were indeed Pedro de Figueroa Banuelos and Beatriz de Angulo Montesinos. The scans are copies from documents available in the Bancroft library. They are part of a set of documents related to the Contreras, Angulo, Figueroa, Padilla, Banuelos, Onate, and Flores de la Torre families. They are limpiezas de sangre of various priests from these families.

Daniel

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Very interesting.... I did find a Francisco Ibarra, son of Francisco Suarez de Ibarra and Maria del Castillo, in DF married to Beatriz Gutierrez de Carriazo in 1634. They were having children from 1635 - 1648.

Here are their marriage documents:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-5BJJ-3?i=650&cc=1615259

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-5BVG-Z?i=366&cc=1615259

The document you have translated from me appears to be dated 1641, smack in the middle of the couple having children. So either Francisco Suarez de Ibarra and Maria del Castillo had two children named Francisco (then Francisco Suarez de Ibarra with his second wife Isabel Pimentel would also have Francisco Suarez de Ibarra el Mozo) or the DF couple could just happen to be a case of parents having identical but unrelated names. Well, back to the drawing board!

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Thank you Daniel for uploading these images. They are fantastic!

I still wonder if the Angulo family from Atotonilco, Ayo, and Tepa were related to this family.

There was also a Pedro de Angulo who was the prior of the Agustinian Convent in Ayo in the first half of the 1600's. Maybe he is also related?

Richard

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Dear Daniel,

I was just wondering if you have been able to locate the limpieza de sangre documents for Pedro de Figueroa y Banuelos. Or do you happen to have a reference to help you search for them?

Does anyone happen to know if this Pedro de Figueroa y Banuelos was the son of a homonym and Mariana Temino de Banuelos? Or if both Pedros are the same person and he was married before becoming a priest?

Thanks in advance and best regards,

Jorge

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While looking for documents regarding my ancestors from Nuevo Leon, I happened to find a document that was written by Cristobal Covarrubias son of Francisco Covarrubias and Maria Bermudez. It is a document that also pertains to the Zaldivar family of Zacatecas.

Here it is:

https://repositorio.tec.mx/handle/11285/630054

I can't read it too well, and I don't think it really gives any more info than we already know, except that I think it states Maria Bermudez died in Zacatecas. I have no idea why Cristobal talks about his family nor why there are declarations from Francisco Covarrubias in a document for the Zaldivars...

Alex

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My wife and I both descend from Pedro Joseph Covarrubias. I descend from his first marriage to Maria Manuela Gonzalez Rubio and she descends from his second wife Maria Lizarreras. ( I have seen Maria's surname spelled different ways)

Pedro Joseph is the son of Josef Antonio Covarribias and Ynes Guadalupe Gomez de Mendoza

Josef Antonio Covarrubias is the son of Jose Covarrubias (Junior) and his second wife Leonor Sanchez de Porras on 20/Aug/1725

Leonor is the daughter of Cap.Alejandro Sanchez de Porras and Francisca Alvarez-Tostado de. Luna

Jose Covarrubias (Junior) is the son of Jose Covarrubias (senior) and Leonor Hermosillo (daughter of Pedro Franco de Paredes and Leonor Hermosillo

My brickwall is that I do not have any parents for Jose Covarrubias (senior). I have him b. Circa 1659 and married about 1684 in Jalostotitlan Jalisco, Mexico.

Can anyone help me with Jose Covarrubias's ancestry?

Thanks,
R.A.Ricci

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Thank you Alex for the information.

The record also names other people in the household. It names two more Covarrubias, Ysabel and María. There are also Rodas in the same household. I will try to see if I can find a Rodas - Covarrubias connection and see if it can lead to more information.

Thanks again Alex,

Rick

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Dear Alex,

The census record that you found also led me to the same information connecting the Rodas to the Covarrubias. I believe that your clue has led to a big discovery as to the ancestry of José Covarrubias.

José Covarrubias is the son of Ysabel Covarrubias and Alonso Perez

Ysabel Covarrubias is the daughter of Francisco Covarrubias and Ysabel De Rodas

So there are at least three reasons that we had trouble finding the ancestry of José Covarrubias. First because his mother is the one with the surname Covarrubias, and his father’s surname is Perez. Second factor that contributed to not finding this out earlier is that Ysabel Covarrubias had three husbands. The third and biggest reason that we had trouble with José Cobarrubias ancestry was that we kept trying to find a connection to Contador Francisco Cobarrubias y Quijada but he did not descend from him.

Thank you very much Alex for this important piece to this puzzle.

Rick A. Ricci

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Dear Alex,

You presented evidence that the Francisco Cobarrubias married to Ysabel De Rodas is not the son of Francisco Covarrubias y Quijada + Maria Ramirez Bermudez. So the family tree looks like this:

1. Martin Navarrete (de Covarrubias )and Isabel Hernandez (de Logroño)
2. Francisco Covarrubias married to Ysabel De Rodas (daughter of Francisco Solano Calderon and Francisca Jimenez Altamirano)
3. Ysabel De Covarrubias y Rodas + Alonso Pérez
4. José Cobarrubias

The search now continues as we now search for the ancestors of Martin Navarrete (de Covarrubias )and Isabel Hernandez (de Logroño).

Here is what I found on the internet regarding the trail from Navarrete to Loroño:
Logroño a Navarrete is a 13.8 kilometer moderately trafficked point-to-point trail located near Logroño, La Rioja, Spain that features a lake and is good for all skill levels. The trail is primarily used for hiking, walking, nature trips, and backpacking.

Thanks,
Rick

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Luigi or the Genealogist,

I notice you mention a Ibarra family. I have a Catalina Ibarra in my tree that's the daughter of Antonio ibarra and Maria de Escobar. Do you know if your ibarras connect to my Ibarras?

Danny C. Alonso

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Danny

What time period and location are we talking for the couple? Early 1600's they would be in Guadalajara to connect to Francisco Suarez de Ibarra and Maria Martinez del Castillo or Isabel Pimentel.

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Danny

What time period and location are we talking for the couple? Early 1600's they would be in Guadalajara to connect to Francisco Suarez de Ibarra and Maria Martinez del Castillo or Isabel Pimentel.

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Luigi,

it's this couple here:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Ibarra-6

theres no dates but looking at everyone and when they probably were married, i guess maybe they were born around the early 1600s or maybe late 1500s, but i'm not sure. theyre mentioned here on sagrada mitra de gualdalajara:

Teocaltiche. Jal. Enero 2 de 1717. Exp 28 - Dispensa de cuarto grado de
afinidad por cópula lícita.- Francisco de Tejeda Villaseñor. español, vecino de
este pueblo, viudo de Doña María Pérez Gallo; con Doña María Morán de Ledesma.
hija legítima de Antonio Morán de Ledesma y de Doña Antonia Ramírez de Rueda.
españoles y vecinos de esta feligresía. Declaración de Alvaro Carrillo, español
de 62 años de edad: Porque Antonio de Ibarra y Catharina de Ibarra, fueron
hermanos, y Antonio de Ibarra fué bisabuelo de Doña María Morán de Ledesma, que
conoció a María de Ibarra, abuela de la dicha y que conoce a Antonio Morán de
Ledesma, padre de la dicha María Morán de Ledesma, y conoció a Catharina de

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245luigi,

Let me start by saying that I think you are definitely on the right track here. I agree with all of your conclusions thus far. My notes on the Colio family may be of interest to you since they overlap nicely with your research.

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I have extracted the following information from “Diccionario Biografico del Occidente Novohispano”:

Pedro Diaz del Palmar married Juana Hernandez de Gangas. They were the parents of the Conquistador Diego de Colio, el Viejo (born abt. 1500, Cabrales, Asturias de Oviedo – died aft. 1579). Diego’s positions included: being Encomendero de Ixcatlan “con sus estancias de Guautla y Cocoitlan, jurisdiccion de Copala”; being Alcalde Ordinario de primer voto del Cabildo de Guadalajara y del Cabildo de Compostela; and being Corregidor de los Pueblos de Acatlan, Pixtla, Cuyutlan, Zalatitlan, y Iguala.

Diego de Colio, el Viejo married (abt. 1535) to Catalina de la Torre

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Thank you very much for your elaborate comment.

I have seen much of the information you have supplied repeated on the internet. I have been searching for primary source documents but have come up with very little.

I am very interested in the ancestry of Juan Guerra, but again have found no documents in my search.

Interesting proposition regarding Melchor Vargas Machuca's possible marriages. Here is a timeline:

1617, Melchor and Mariana are already married as Pedro Vargas Machuca is baptized in Guadalajara on 6 May 1617.

1634, Maria, daughter of Melchor Vargas and Mariana Covarrubias is confirmed (maybe this is Elena??). (Right, middle https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19623-26415-38?cc=1874591)

1646, Mariana Covarrubias y Colio passes away, legitimate wife of Captain Melchor de Vargas. Son Pedro is mentioned in the record and husband is alive (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18380-1340-31?cc=1874591). Will was written in front of Hernando Enriquez. I checked

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I went through all of the documents that were left to go through and no additional info was found. Hernan Guerra de Colio does not mention who his parents are. Infomaciones for Francisco Covarrubias repeats the same info probably 20 times by each witness. It does include info as to where is parents are from but I don't understand it well. Also nothing new in the capellania for Francisco Covarrubias. Images 143 - 179 appear to be a capellania pertaining to Mateo de Pedrosa son of Marcos Pedrosa and Maria de Nava but there is nothing pertaining to the lineages I was discussing in the thread

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Diego Covarrubias y Leyva Egas and Gaspar Covarrubias y Leyva Egas are brothers I just posted some of my research on the Covarrubias family under the thread on Toribio Hernandez Arellanos genealogy

R.A.Ricci

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Dear David and Alex,

i was hoping to share and discuss my research on the Covarrubias ancestry in person. Are either of you planning on being anywhere near Los Angeles California this summer? Please send me your emails.

Rick A. Ricci