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Hi group!!

I just viewed the baptismal record of my great grandpa, Francisco 
SANDOVAL, who was baptised in Totatiche.  I had been looking for his 
grandparents' names, and now I have them.  Francisco was the son of 
Urbano SANDOVAL, originally from Huejucar, and Urbano was the son of 
Jose Maria SANDOVAL and Juana BERUMES.  I looked up this couple, and 
discovered that Jose Maria's parents were Leon SANDOVAL and Maria 
Guadalupe VAZQUEZ.  I'm still gethering information based on my 
findings, and I know some people from the group come from the 
Sandoval line.  I do need to order the films for HUEJUCAR, but now 
both my parents have ancestors who lived in the same HUEJUCAR area-- 
they sure didn't know that until I started working on my family 
tree!!  Am I my own cousin?  ;)

Has anyone come across the CORDOVA family of Huejucar?  My gt gt 
grandma, Manuela CORDOVA, was born in Huejucar, and her parents were 
Pablo CORDOVA and Romana ELIAS.  I just wondered if anyone had come 
across

thought this would be of interest if anyone is doing research in this area:

Record # 51 (Select) Title: Crónicas de Autlán de la Grana,
Jalisco / Ernesto Medina Lima. Portion of title : Autlán de la
Grana, Jalisco Author: Medina Lima, Ernesto, 1917-
Published: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México : Universidad de
Guadalajara, 2000.

Holdings:

Perkins --- 972.35 M491, C947, 2000
c.1 Checked Out Due: 5/31/2004
Edition: 1. ed.

Subject Heading(s) : Autlán de Navarro (Mexico)--History.
Autlán de Navarro (México) Historia.
Material: 283 p. ; 22 cm.
Notes : Includes bibliographical references.
LCCN: 2001328553 OCLC: 46319794 System ID No: BKU-6894

BRENDEEN LONGORIA wrote:

This is Brendeen Longoria  I just joined the research group and looking
around the web site to understand better how you all are approaching this
project.  I need to send my ged.com files in and will do that this weekend. 
Is that the format that fits into this program? 

I'm not sure which Program you are using but if you have the option to produce
a RTF Word (formatted Text) file that would work well for most to see.

Does everyone download the files to view them so we are coordinating
our searches?

Well so far the way i looks is that as new people come into the group everyone
looks over their genealogy to see if the new person might be researching
a specific area they are researching. If so then the information is looked
over to see if any of the individuals are recognized.



Well at least that is what I'm doing. it is difficult but I try to keep an
idea of what areas people are researching and provide maps

I had intended on taking that conversation with Alicia about the
problems she was having logging into Yahoo off the group.

As you can see I failed in this attempt. I'll try harder next time. .
.its late and I wasn't paying attention.

sorry,

joseph

wonderful. . .I get nervous with this stuff because I can get so flustered
with it so quickly. . .I have a confession. When I was encouraging you to
be patient I was saying that only to force myself to be patient. I was concerned
that I would so quickly throw my hands up and say "heck if I know." thankfully
it never reached that point. And if I hadn't made that confession I could
have remained on that high plateau you had me on. . .nope not me I'm down
in the trenches with everybody else. Just a loco thats wingin it.



by the way you're from San Jo right? Have you ever heard of that Ramirez
lady that lives in San Jose that wrote that Genealogy book? I just got it
on interlibrary loan because it talks about Miranda and Lugo (names on my
dads maternal side of the family). Unfortuneately for me they all seem to
have come from Sinaloa instead. but there is some very good info on the early
California Ranchos in the book. If you are interested I have the book in
my car and I'll get you the

Okay I'm sure there are several of you out there that can't access the "files, photos, Links" and other non-public files that are available to this Yahoo Group. Here is why mostlikely. . .you haven't registered with Yahoo. You need to register with Yahoo and get your own ID and Password. Here are direction on how to do this. If any of this is even  a little bit unclear then email me and if you are patient we'll work on this together and eventually get it. . .the key word there is being patient.

so here are the instructions on how to get your free ID and password:

go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/

up in the top right click on "Register"

fill out the form (FREE) carefully writing down whatever ID and password you choose (This part is critical!!!)

put the paper you wrote down

Okay I'm sure there are several of you out there that can't access the "files, photos, Links" and other non-public files that are available to this Yahoo Group. Here is why mostlikely. . .you haven't registered with Yahoo. You need to register with Yahoo and get your own ID and Password. Here are direction on how to do this. If any of this is even  a little bit unclear then email me and if you are patient we'll work on this together and eventually get it. . .the key word there is being patient.

so here are the instructions on how to get your

Okay I'm sure there are several of you out there that can't access the "files,
photos, Links" and other non-public files that are available to this Yahoo
Group. Here is why mostlikely. . .you haven't registered with Yahoo.
You need to register with Yahoo and get your own ID and Password. Here are
direction on how to do this. If any of this is even  a little bit unclear
then email me and if you are patient we'll work on this together and eventually
get it. . .the key word there is being patient.



so here are the instructions on how to get your free ID and password:



go to:  http://groups.yahoo.com/




up in the top right click on "Register"



fill out the form (FREE) carefully writing down
whatever ID and password you choose (This part is critical!!!)



put the paper you wrote down your ID and Password in a safe place (don't
do like me and have to go hunting for those little scattered pieces of paper
I have with various and sundry passwords and id's)



After you've done this

Hello,

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Irma,
your right..........I found two instances so far where my gr. grandmother was the padrina to 2 of her grandchildren......I didn't know they could do that?!?!?.hahaha.......Now a days with the way things are and grandparents are raising their grandchildren....they might as well be the godparents.
Stella
This too shall pass.............






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Irma,

your right..........I found two instances so far where my gr. grandmother was the padrina to 2 of her grandchildren......I didn't know they could do that?!?!?.hahaha.......Now a days with the way things are and grandparents are raising their grandchildren....they might as well be the godparents.

Stella

This too shall pass.............

Fabulous idea and when i get some time I'll work on getting my list of films
available to put in the files section. thanks.



yes the spirit of cooperation. . .in time we are going to develope into a
fine tuned researching machine for others to pattern themselves. Certainly
the Rootsweb groups leave a lot to be desired in this respect.



joseph





readysetgo95814 wrote:

Stella,
Thanks for the offer to do lookups for the group. I don't have anyone 
I am looking for in that area that I know of, but I appreciate the 
offer just the same. I think this is where we can really help one 
another.  I was thinking we should have a place where we post what 
film(s) we are currently viewing in case anyone in the group needs a 
lookup done for them.  I recently asked Helyn for a lookup and she 
graciously agreed.  Thank you Helyn!

I am currently viewing film #0628877. This is the first film for 
Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco and it covers baptisms for the years 
1801-1818. I should mention that

Stella,
Thanks for the offer to do lookups for the group. I don't have anyone 
I am looking for in that area that I know of, but I appreciate the 
offer just the same. I think this is where we can really help one 
another.  I was thinking we should have a place where we post what 
film(s) we are currently viewing in case anyone in the group needs a 
lookup done for them.  I recently asked Helyn for a lookup and she 
graciously agreed.  Thank you Helyn!

I am currently viewing film #0628877. This is the first film for 
Ixtlahuacan del Rio, Jalisco and it covers baptisms for the years 
1801-1818. I should mention that the books on this film are for a 
parroquia that was an offshoot of the Parroquia de San Felipe, 
Cuquio, Jalisco.  The parroquia was called "Hayuda de la Parroquia de 
San Miguel de Quelitan feligresia de Cuquio".  I think the parroquia 
de Ixtlahuacan del Rio was founded later.  Anyway, I would be happy 
to do lookups for others as well.

Maria Cortez

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
[mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:36
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Was
Totatiche Films/Info Mining???

thats great. You just
never know how the padrinos are going to be related. They could be the
abuelos, siblings, tios, primos, or just exceptionally close friends of the
family. The older records before 1800 seem to stop giving the abuelos but you
still have the padrinos listed. so in the older records they take on a more
important role since there is now less information in each

thats great. You just never know how the padrinos are going to be related.
They could be the abuelos, siblings, tios, primos, or just exceptionally
close friends of the family. The older records before 1800 seem to stop giving
the abuelos but you still have the padrinos listed. so in the older records
they take on a more important role since there is now less information in
each record to work with. I guess the point I'm making is that learning to
dig, dig, dig every little bit of information from each record, leaving no
rock unturned now will help you much later when you are working with less
info in the records.



Others I'm sure can add much to what info I try to dig out of a post 1800
baptismal record. . .here's my list of what I try to find.



1) of course the written details of the child.

2) the names of the parents

3) the names of the grandparents

4) the names of the padrinos

5) I do a person search on each name given in the record being careful to
do a search with the exact

Joseph,

thats a good idea, taking a copy of the indexes  (sp?)  anyways I have done what you have said and yes have found other people......infact the padrina to my padrina........was one of my moms best friends and she didn't even know it!!!......my padrina/madrina....is my moms sister but she is 10 years younger than my mom.

Stella

This too shall pass.............

Great job Stella,



Wow you are really digging in and doing your own research. . .go girl! I
wish I had relatives in totatiche for you to help me find. . .that would
mean we might be relatives too. You never know but later we might find some
there too.



uh, ummm, just wondering but have you done a page by page study of each film
from beginning to end? If not some of my greatest finds have been when I'm
not searching for anyone in particular but just trying to find any relatives
I might come across.



just a suggestion but I'd recommend if you haven't already done this,  go
back and slowly scan each record paying careful attention to the wives of
each of the abuelos. Also write down any padrinos that look like they might
be related. Many times the padrinos are related. And if you are lucky the
padrinos are a married couple and are closely related. Then you can do a
parent search for them and see who else you can find maybe on another film.




If you've decided to really let the films go

Hello folks,

I have a couple of films until July 3rd.....I am done if anyone would like me too look someone up for them I would be glad too

Mexico, Jalisco, Totatiche- church records.

Bautismos 1880-1890

Bautismos 1898-1906

Bautismos de hijos naturales 1906-1944

Confirmaciones 1879, 1906,1910-1958 (en desorden)

The confirmations don't have any info except the year, the confirmants name, the parents and the godparents.

I have another film that came in today, but don't know which one...she didn't tell me..but I am on my way over there now to view it, same area..........

Stella

This too shall pass.............

thanks for the info.

I just checked Dr. Platt's Census reference pages and it doesn't list
Totatiche in the 168809 film. I also have the 168809 film and even
though I haven't done a slooow roll-thru it yet I haven't seen Totatiche
in it. I kind of did a semi-fast pass through it and I'll have to have
another look at it later.

These are the places that Dr. Platt's reference has for Totatiche.

joseph

aajay1073 wrote:

I haven't really had a chance to look all the way through it. I only
looked at about 30 pages of it which included the city of Totatiche,
Jalisco and the nearby ranches. 30 pages isn't even a quarter of the
film.

I didn't even find the family I was looking for. :-( I found many
families that I am related to but not the one that I am stuck on and
was hoping I could get some additional information about them from
the census. I probably need to get the film: Padrones 1817 - FHL
INTL Film [ 168809 ]

Next time I look at the film, I'll see if Jerez is

Jose it was me, Joseph who was asking Angie if Jerez was in her 1820 Census
film. If it was and if it wasn't a very large section I was hoping she would
check to see if any Puente or Muro's were on the film. I don't know of any
Puentes or Muro family members that were from there just thought if she spotted
any I'd be interested in who they might be.



thanks,



joseph



Jose Macias wrote:

Angie ; Who were looking for in Jerez
?

 

Jose Macias

usa20 @earthlink.net

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From:
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To:
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Sent:
Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:57 PM

Subject:
[ranchos] Re: 1820 Census ?

Here is the information:



Title

Padrones, 1639-1875



Authors

Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)



Notes

Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagarda Mitra en

Guadalajara.

Census records from parishes within the

Here is the information:

Title
Padrones, 1639-1875

Authors
Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes
Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagarda Mitra en 
Guadalajara.
Census records from parishes within the Diocese of Guadalajara, 
Jalisco, Mexico.

Subjects
Mexico, Jalisco - Census
Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Census 

Film Notes
Note - Location [Film]
Padrones 1820 -  FHL INTL Film [ 168818 ]

I haven't really had a chance to look all the way through it.  I only 
looked at about 30 pages of it which included the city of Totatiche, 
Jalisco and the nearby ranches.  30 pages isn't even a quarter of the 
film.

I didn't even find the family I was looking for. :-(  I found many 
families that I am related to but not the one that I am stuck on and 
was hoping I could get some additional information about them from 
the census.  I probably need to get the film: Padrones 1817 -  FHL 
INTL Film [ 168809 ]

Next time I look at the film, I'll see if

This was in the latest issue of Somos Primos found at:
http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2003/spjun03.htm

====================

CIUDADES IMPORTANTES PARA INVESTIGACIÓN GENEALÓGICA
DE LA REPUBLICA MEXICANA
EN SUS ARCHIVOS ECLESIÁSTICOS


Guillermo Padilla Origel
CIUDAD EDO. PARROQUIA Bau. Mat. Def.
AGUASCALIENTES AGS. SAGRARIO 1616 1663 1620



ESTADO DE COAHUILA

MONCOLOVA COAH. SANTIAGO 1688 1690 1777

PARRAS COAH. STA, MARIA 1653 1683 1693

SALTILLO COAH. SAGRARIO 1684 1703 1745

DISTRITO FEDERAL

TACUBA D.F. SN. GABRIEL 1605 1623 1619

XOCHIMILCO D.F. BERNARDINO 1597 1601 1639

SAGRARIO MET. D.F. ASUNCIÓN 1537 1575 1671

S.CATARINA M. D.F. IDEM 1568 1589 1664

S. VERACRUZ D.F. IDEM 1560 1568 1622

ESTADO DE DURANGO

DURANGO DUR. SAGRARIO 1642 1624 -------

NOMBRE DE DIOS DUR. S. PEDRO 1634 1660 --------

ESTADO DE MÉXICO

TOLUCA E, MEX. SAGRARIO 1626 1655 1696

ESTADO DE GUANAJUATO

CELAYA GTO. SAGRARIO 1682 1658 1635

DOLORES HIDALGO GTO. DOLORES 1682 1728 1736

GUANAJUATO GTO. STA